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is the assad regime responsible for this? what's going on? >> reporter: well, the opposition members we're with are saying the government is the entity that shut down the internet even though we have not seen anything as widespread as this blackout we're hearing about right now. they say the government does this to prevent activists from communicating to one another, from getting information out, from uploading their videos but also to prevent the rebel fighting units from communicating to one another as well. i can tell you that where i am right now in northern syria, there is no power, no cell phone service and even the land lines are not functioning at this point. of course, it makes it incredibly difficult not just when it comes to communications but also the lack of power. it is winter, it is freezing cold right now and most people are unable to heat their homes. >> there are also reports as you know that assad's forces have been fiercely shelling aleppo. what can you tell us about that? >> reporter: well, we were driving past outskirts
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i don't think they are walking away from assad anytime soon. megyn: if these chemical weapons are used, what do you expect the u.s. reaction to be? >> i would hope they would do something about it before they are used. and our intelligence service would see the weap weapons for deployment and the readiness to use them. and those sites being prepared, the israelis would want to bomb those sites. it depend on where the site is and its approximate i amity to population centers and it depend on what type of agent is at that site. nonetheless. the second problem we have, martha, and the one that concerns us quite dramatically. some of these weapons fall into the hands of radical groups that would use them as terrorist weapons later on. that would mean at some point regardless of how this conflict will end. we would have to secure those chemical sites. we wouldn't do it by ourselves buff it would be a regional approach to secure those sites. megyn: so many concerns on so many levels. general keane, thank you, good to talk to you this morning. bill: t
i don't think they are walking away from assad anytime soon. megyn: if these chemical weapons are used, what do you expect the u.s. reaction to be? >> i would hope they would do something about it before they are used. and our intelligence service would see the weap weapons for deployment and the readiness to use them. and those sites being prepared, the israelis would want to bomb those sites. it depend on where the site is and its approximate i amity to population centers and it depend...
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head bandages, a voice says, this is the fate of your pilots, assad. this is not an isolated incident. in the same vicinity close to the city in a span of 24 hours rebels claim they not only brought down this fighter jet, but also, two helicopters. video posted to youtube shows a trail of smoke and a helicopter bursting in to flames but there's no way for us to confirm when and where this happened. these dramatic developments are a result of a pitched battle fought here at the 46 regiment base just over a week ago. for nearly two months hassan tells us they laid siege to the base after clearing the villages around it of assad's forces and positioning rebel snipers in the area. the final battle to take this massive base lasted 24 hours chls rebel fighters used artillery captured of another unit on the base firing in it to the building and ending the battle. for this rebel unit, there was a treasure trove of weaponry and most important of all, anti-aircraft missiles, hurgss of them. though not all functioning the fighters tell us. video posted to youtube
head bandages, a voice says, this is the fate of your pilots, assad. this is not an isolated incident. in the same vicinity close to the city in a span of 24 hours rebels claim they not only brought down this fighter jet, but also, two helicopters. video posted to youtube shows a trail of smoke and a helicopter bursting in to flames but there's no way for us to confirm when and where this happened. these dramatic developments are a result of a pitched battle fought here at the 46 regiment base...
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>> i don't know why, anderson, but i think it's important to note that bashir al assad may interpret that as a green light for everything else. in other words, do everything up to but not including the use of chemical weapons. but at the same time, i do understand the concern about the use of nerve gas which is in their inventory, which depending on how heavily populated the area that they use it on, could result in unbelievable deaths that, you know, possibly in tens of thousands if they use the right kind of chemical weapon. so i can understand the administration's concern but maybe they don't realize that they are also sending a green light to bashir al assad that he can do anything short of that. >> what would it mean to try to stop chemical weapons from being used? >> i think it would have to be -- it would be very complicated. i don't think you could send enough american troops on the ground. i don't think that would be an option. you may have to try to take out the stocks from the air. we do know where a lot of them are. frankly, i don't -- i've had significant military backgr
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president bashar al-assad wants do and indeed has to hang on to the capital if he is to stay in power. there are many experts who believe either way, he has decided to fight to the death. either if he tries to flow he will be killed by his own supporters who will feel betrayed him him or ultimately he will be killed by the rebels. this, while it does seem to be the end days for the bashar al-assad regime, it could yet stretch on for some days or even weeks. that because the rebels simply are not strong enough to defeat the syrian security forces in one battle. what we are seeing is an intense battle of attrition. most experts will tell you, his days are numbered. >> the big question on the international stage now, jonathan, will he use the chemical weapons at the last moment. >>jonathan: there are real concerns. a lot of people call him a cornered rat fighting to the death and therefore use every weapon in his arsenal. there are others, though, who think that assad is highly unlikely to do that, he has been wanted by everyone, including his allies, the russians, that it would be a gra
president bashar al-assad wants do and indeed has to hang on to the capital if he is to stay in power. there are many experts who believe either way, he has decided to fight to the death. either if he tries to flow he will be killed by his own supporters who will feel betrayed him him or ultimately he will be killed by the rebels. this, while it does seem to be the end days for the bashar al-assad regime, it could yet stretch on for some days or even weeks. that because the rebels simply are...
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how do we know that bashar al assad isn't doing the same thing right now? how do we know that the intelligence that the u.s., the international community is getting is really accurate that there are wmd stockpiles, weapons of mass destruction, sarin gas, mustard gas, in syrian? >> wolf, the key thing right now is that if assad is putting up a front, we're not going to know that unless we have good solid human intelligence on the ground. and that begins with interrogations of the key personnel that are involved, the scientists, research and development community, the military leaders, the commanders, that as fran indicated would give the directives to pull the triggers. those guys have to be rounded up. and you have to conduct interrogations. that's very tough. that's kind of basic intelligence work. and it doesn't start until you get on the ground and you start interrogating those guys. >> there's always concern. i remember there was a guy named curve ball providing the u.s. information supposedly about saddam hussein's wmd. >> it was one source. >> but he
how do we know that bashar al assad isn't doing the same thing right now? how do we know that the intelligence that the u.s., the international community is getting is really accurate that there are wmd stockpiles, weapons of mass destruction, sarin gas, mustard gas, in syrian? >> wolf, the key thing right now is that if assad is putting up a front, we're not going to know that unless we have good solid human intelligence on the ground. and that begins with interrogations of the key...
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assad has vowed to fight to the death. >> pelley: margaret, thank you. when the syrian people first rose up it looked like a mismatch. they had rifles against one of the largest armies in the region. syrian towns have been turned into rubble, and the rebels are in the suburbs of the capital damascus now. it is rare for reporters to reach the war zone, but elizabeth palmer managed to get to the dictatorship's main military hospital to look at the damage being inflicted on assad's army. >> reporter: the tishereen it hospital morgue in northern damascus now receives between 20 and 50 bodies every day. most of them are soldiers. though some civilians do end up here, too. the man in the coffin is adnan said a civil servant who was 30 years old. outside, his mother and brother have just learned that he was killed by a sniper on his way to work. in the hospital's intensive care unit the men can't speak, but their injuries do. inflicted by rocket-propelled gre neighbors bombes, and automatic riflees, they show the anti-regime fighters have, for the most part sim
assad has vowed to fight to the death. >> pelley: margaret, thank you. when the syrian people first rose up it looked like a mismatch. they had rifles against one of the largest armies in the region. syrian towns have been turned into rubble, and the rebels are in the suburbs of the capital damascus now. it is rare for reporters to reach the war zone, but elizabeth palmer managed to get to the dictatorship's main military hospital to look at the damage being inflicted on assad's army....
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we also don't know at what point would the assad regime re-sort to using sarin. it's my hypothesis that they will if they start getting slaughtered. it could happen. they will use it. >> sanjay, for people at risk in areas where assad regime might use them r or could use them or some other group, what can they do to protect themselves? is there something you can do? >> they don't have access to medications, the at row peen for for example. you have to goit of the area, which sounds simplistic. because it's odorless and tasteless and hard to detect, you have to get out of the area. you can get poisoned by inge ingestion and inhaling and touching it. it can be on your clothes, for example. you get out of the way and take off your clothes or anything exposed to it. sto soap and water and try to rinse your body. it's a heavier gas as compared to what else is in the area, so it lingers closer to the ground. getting to higher elevation can help. these sound like simplistic things but short of a medication given right away, there's not much else to do. >> it's really sc
we also don't know at what point would the assad regime re-sort to using sarin. it's my hypothesis that they will if they start getting slaughtered. it could happen. they will use it. >> sanjay, for people at risk in areas where assad regime might use them r or could use them or some other group, what can they do to protect themselves? is there something you can do? >> they don't have access to medications, the at row peen for for example. you have to goit of the area, which sounds...
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but the russians insisted no pictures could be taken show low them discussing assad critics want the administration to >> reporter: the u.s. critics want the administration to consider military options. >> we do know absolutely that these weapons have been readied for use by bashar al-assad's aircraft. again, i urge, we urge the president of the united states to make whatever military preparations are necessary. >> reporter: another military imperative, securing the weapons if assad loses control. >> it is absolutely important that terrorist groups not obtain possession of those weapons, and then try to use them against any other country or any other group within syria. >> reporter: there are military operations, but privately, the u.s. military officials concede that the pre-emptive strike could be risky and could even spread the deadly sarin gas, if he were to launch the weapons, an attack could be likely against him and his officials. >> andrea mitchell, thank you, here we go in egypt, where the new president who replaced the old president, hosni mubarak, after he was deposed, tri
but the russians insisted no pictures could be taken show low them discussing assad critics want the administration to >> reporter: the u.s. critics want the administration to consider military options. >> we do know absolutely that these weapons have been readied for use by bashar al-assad's aircraft. again, i urge, we urge the president of the united states to make whatever military preparations are necessary. >> reporter: another military imperative, securing the weapons if...
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assad could go into asylum tomorrow. the crisis would not end. if you do not have an orderly transition of power, if you have no assurance, who's in charge of syria the day after assad leaves, this problem of securing the chemical weapons becomes perhaps even more dire. >> it's sobering stuff. and bob's assessment of the power of just one shell in a city like homs. we appreciate you to be on. we'll continue to follow it, as well. >>> up next, while lawmakers have been battling over the fiscal cliff crisis, they managed to find time to vote on a treaty that would have protected disabled around the world. it's modeled on the americans with disabilities act. republicans blocked it with their vote. you might ask, why would they do that? we'll tell you, ahead. i love to eat. i love hanging out with my friends. i have a great fit with my dentures. i love kiwis. i've always had that issue with the seeds getting under my denture. super poligrip free -- it creates a seal of the dentures in my mouth. even well-fitting dentures let in food particles. super
assad could go into asylum tomorrow. the crisis would not end. if you do not have an orderly transition of power, if you have no assurance, who's in charge of syria the day after assad leaves, this problem of securing the chemical weapons becomes perhaps even more dire. >> it's sobering stuff. and bob's assessment of the power of just one shell in a city like homs. we appreciate you to be on. we'll continue to follow it, as well. >>> up next, while lawmakers have been battling...
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there are new concerns the assad regime is preparing to use chemical weapons. let's get to our pentagon correspondent barbara starr. barbara, how does this change the u.s. military's syria plan? are we talking u.s. troops, boots on the ground? >> well, not at this point, clearly, deb. but what we do know is that u.s. officials tell us that they are updating some of the military options for action against syria's chemical weapons capability, why are they doing this? of course, we chatted about this in the last several days. officials say they do have the intelligence now that syria has filled aerial bombs with deadly sarin gas. haven't moved it to airplanes yet, but this is very concerning because that, of course, would be the next step. so once you have the deadly bombs, the u.s. has to look at what the options could be, what they might want to target to essentially take out that kind of capabilities. so that's the options that are now being worked on. deb? >> i mean, the implications are just stunning that the assad regime would actually use deadly gas on its
there are new concerns the assad regime is preparing to use chemical weapons. let's get to our pentagon correspondent barbara starr. barbara, how does this change the u.s. military's syria plan? are we talking u.s. troops, boots on the ground? >> well, not at this point, clearly, deb. but what we do know is that u.s. officials tell us that they are updating some of the military options for action against syria's chemical weapons capability, why are they doing this? of course, we chatted...
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we also don't know at what point would the assad regime resort the using sarin. it's my hypothesis they will if they're starting to get slaughtered. it could happen. they will use it. >> sanjay, for people who are at risk, i mean in areas where the assad regime could or might use them or another group, what can they do to protect themselves? is there something to do to prepro tekt yourself? >> they presumably don't have access to the medication. you have to get out of the area but keep in mind this -- because it's odorless and tasteless and very hard to detect, you have to get out of area and also because you can get poisoned again by ingestion and inhaling or simply touching it, it can be on the clothes, the clothes could be a vehicle so you get out of the way. you take off your clothes or anything that may have been exposed to it, soap and water, rinse your body as much as also. one thing is it's a heavier gas compared to that what's in that area and lingers closer to the ground and getting to higher elevation can help. it sounds simplistic but short of a medic
we also don't know at what point would the assad regime resort the using sarin. it's my hypothesis they will if they're starting to get slaughtered. it could happen. they will use it. >> sanjay, for people who are at risk, i mean in areas where the assad regime could or might use them or another group, what can they do to protect themselves? is there something to do to prepro tekt yourself? >> they presumably don't have access to the medication. you have to get out of the area but...
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showing that the assad regime was mixing agents, mixing chemicals to make sarin gas. they're not telling us exactly what the evidence is, but what they are saying is they have multiple sources of intelligence. this suggests possibly some satellite imagery, some phone intercepts, maybe even some human sources on the ground giving them misinformation. >> at this point, what kind of military action might the united states be considering right now? >> when the president of the united states goes out there and makes a strong statement like he did today. >> that's commitment. >> you have to follow up it and do something. >> they're going to watch there carefully. when they see this move, they have to determine rapidly, what are assad's intentions. they're not sure about that right now. get other countries in the region, involved. don't forget, israel lies right over the border. the israelis may not be so patient and wait to see if the chemical weapons are going to be used. >> it's going to make everyone nervous. how deadly is sarin gas? >> 500 times more lethal than cyanide
showing that the assad regime was mixing agents, mixing chemicals to make sarin gas. they're not telling us exactly what the evidence is, but what they are saying is they have multiple sources of intelligence. this suggests possibly some satellite imagery, some phone intercepts, maybe even some human sources on the ground giving them misinformation. >> at this point, what kind of military action might the united states be considering right now? >> when the president of the united...
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>>reporter: the sites where certain president bashar al-assad stores and maintains the stockpiles of chemical weapons and their related components are broadly speaking, known to american intelligence agencies much the step up movement at the locations was first reported by "new york times" and senior officials confirmed it to fox news and added "we don't know if the scenes plan to use them but there are troubling signs." the real fear on the part of the obama white house specifically is that assad, having failed to stop the two year uprising using conventional military means and having killed an estimated 40,000 people in the process, could now turn to weapons of mass destruction. >>shepard: a valid concern according to the monitors but a problem is the weapons are dangerous for more than just the assad >>reporter: the syrian force whose have access to the weapons and weapons components have the benefit of advanced training monday handling them properly. the czech republic represents interests in syria since we evacuated our embassy, and the czech foreign minister who hosted hillary
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and president assad staying in power, could use such chemical weapons against his own people. from the defense secretary on down, the world be reacted to the news today. we begin with our chief foreign correspondent affairs, andrea mitchell. >> reporter: they warned today that the chemical threat is imminent, from a syrian regime that seems to be losing control. >> reporter: with the war turning against the syrian regime, fears rose of a nightmare scenario that once cornered the desperate bashar al-assad, may use chemical weapons against the world or against his own people. >> the whole world is watching, the whole world is watching very closely. and the president of the united states has made very clear that there will be consequences. >> reporter: u.s. intelligence as first reported by nbc news indicates that syria's military has loaded the precursor bombs, even a tiny bomb can attack the nervous system, killing within seconds or minutes, most of syria's sophisticated weapons are from russia, syria's most powerful ally. but today, they were so alarmed about the chemical thre
and president assad staying in power, could use such chemical weapons against his own people. from the defense secretary on down, the world be reacted to the news today. we begin with our chief foreign correspondent affairs, andrea mitchell. >> reporter: they warned today that the chemical threat is imminent, from a syrian regime that seems to be losing control. >> reporter: with the war turning against the syrian regime, fears rose of a nightmare scenario that once cornered the...
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when they see this move, they have to determine rapidly, what are assad's intentions. they're not sure about that right now. get other countries in the region, involved. don't forget, israel lies right over the border. the israelis may not be so patient and wait to see if the chemical weapons are going to be used. >> it's going to make everyone nervous. how deadly is sarin gas? >> 500 times more lethal than cyanide. without an anti-dote and there would be none available to syrian people. it could kill you within minutes. nasty business. >> barbara starr, thanks. appreciate that. troubling developments out of syria come as hillary clinton made repeated the united states position that it will not tolerate the use of chemical weapons. >> we have made our views very clear. this is a red line for the united states. >> so is the united states about to get involved in syria's 20-month-old conflict? out front tonight, bob baer, peter brooks. nice to have both of you with us. bob, what do you think when does the united states get involved? >> i think the fact they're mixing it
when they see this move, they have to determine rapidly, what are assad's intentions. they're not sure about that right now. get other countries in the region, involved. don't forget, israel lies right over the border. the israelis may not be so patient and wait to see if the chemical weapons are going to be used. >> it's going to make everyone nervous. how deadly is sarin gas? >> 500 times more lethal than cyanide. without an anti-dote and there would be none available to syrian...
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it was firmly in the control of assad but it may be weakening. there is a growing humanitarian crisis. in addition to the 40,000 people killed the un said 700,000 syrians are displaced and the number could go higher with the onset of winter, harris. >> north korea about to show off a long-range missile test. there - their goal is to put a in orbit. the u.s. said it is cover for the real goal of developing a successful long-range ballustic missile. north korea is banned by testing them by the united nations and the last one in april didn't end well for them. the new test is expected to further strain relations between north korea and washington. the state department issuing a statement saying devoting scarce resources to the development of weapons and long range missiles . it is reaching out to allies on how to respond. >> a search for bodies after a plane crashes in a dozep houses. -- dozen house us. >> congo, that crash happening near the airport. soviet made cargo plane attempting to land in a thunderstorm. 32 bodies are already pulled from the
it was firmly in the control of assad but it may be weakening. there is a growing humanitarian crisis. in addition to the 40,000 people killed the un said 700,000 syrians are displaced and the number could go higher with the onset of winter, harris. >> north korea about to show off a long-range missile test. there - their goal is to put a in orbit. the u.s. said it is cover for the real goal of developing a successful long-range ballustic missile. north korea is banned by testing them by...
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i think if the united states get more involved, turkey, ipg the assad regime will fall eventually, but then the question is how long will the fighting continue among the rest of the groups. that's where the length of time kicks in. >> you think the jordanians are going to be happy with training camps? >> they've already provided assistance and have provided limited trading to opposition. yes, i think they're there. >> next, a gruelling day of cross-examination for the man at the center of the wikileaks classified investigation. bradley manning accused of leaking thousands of documents that ended up on julian assange's website. and the world of espionage takes a strange turn. fish, animal, drones. meet the 5-passenger ford c-max hybrid. when you're carrying a lot of weight, c-max has a nice little trait, you see, c-max helps you load your freight, with its foot-activated lift gate. but that's not all you'll see, cause c-max also beats prius v, with better mpg. say hi to the all-new 47 combined mpg c-max hybrid. hurry in and try five succulent entrees, like our tender snow crab paired wi
i think if the united states get more involved, turkey, ipg the assad regime will fall eventually, but then the question is how long will the fighting continue among the rest of the groups. that's where the length of time kicks in. >> you think the jordanians are going to be happy with training camps? >> they've already provided assistance and have provided limited trading to opposition. yes, i think they're there. >> next, a gruelling day of cross-examination for the man at...
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is there an exit strategy for assad? though the u.n. secretary of general said yesterday the world should not let him seek asylum senator kerry told andrea mitchell he disagrees. >> it's in our security interests to be able to get a transition that is controlled and that is negotiated and that is orderly because the alternative to that is you could have 200,000, 500,000 people killed. >> if syria crosses the red line in chemical weapons what will the u.s. do? middle east expert jeffrey goldberg joins us on the escalating violence across the region in a scoop that some people missed that he had. we'll expose it here. plus an msnbc news exclusive. afghan president hamid karzai blames the u.s. and nato forces for what he says is growing insecurity in his country. what he told our own reporter about the future of the relationship between the two countries and he weighs in on the petraeus scandal. we'll be live in kabul next. but first a look ahead at the president's schedule. we have a photo op today on the fiscal cliff. he heads over to fa
is there an exit strategy for assad? though the u.n. secretary of general said yesterday the world should not let him seek asylum senator kerry told andrea mitchell he disagrees. >> it's in our security interests to be able to get a transition that is controlled and that is negotiated and that is orderly because the alternative to that is you could have 200,000, 500,000 people killed. >> if syria crosses the red line in chemical weapons what will the u.s. do? middle east expert...
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even with not were of a difference between what the co-can accomplish but with the air superiority assad is in a more powerful position but you take that superiority away we could see a stronger and fatter advance by the seen rebels, possibly toward damascus and this is a renewed focus on what the rebels can accomplish in the coming months to end the war in syria. >>shepard: thank you, conor. ♪ [ male announcer ] are you on medicare? do you have the coverage you need? open enrollment ends friday, december 7th. so don't wait. now's the time to get on a path that could be right for you... with unitedhealthcare medicare solutions. call today to learn about the kinds of coverage we offer, including aarp medicarecomplete plans insured through unitedhealthcare. these medicare advantage plans can combine parts a and b, your hospital and doctor coverage... with part d prescription drug coverage, and extra benefits... all in one complete plan... for a $0 monthly premium. no more than what you already pay for medicare part b. unitedhealthcare doesn't stop there. we'll cover 100% of your preventi
even with not were of a difference between what the co-can accomplish but with the air superiority assad is in a more powerful position but you take that superiority away we could see a stronger and fatter advance by the seen rebels, possibly toward damascus and this is a renewed focus on what the rebels can accomplish in the coming months to end the war in syria. >>shepard: thank you, conor. ♪ [ male announcer ] are you on medicare? do you have the coverage you need? open enrollment...
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assad in terms of political maneuvering. so clinton met with the foreign minister of russia, and that's our greatest hope right now. is russia can do something. russia is softening the position on regime change in syria, because i think that they see the syrian regime, this might be an indication we're entering the end game. their job is to ensure that assad doesn't go from even though he's killed 40,000 people, he has been a fairly rational and self-preserving actor here. bombing them with sarin gas means he tipped over into utterly irrational and the whole world has a big problem on his hands. >> this brings up the question of should more have been done earlier, and what were the options? >> it's easy for senator mccain when you're not in power saying we should do all things. the thing we should remember is regime change, libya, egypt, iraq, it very rarely goes well. >> the consequences of regime change, even when it's supported. >> right. in syria there are so many more competing factions for power, that i think a regime
assad in terms of political maneuvering. so clinton met with the foreign minister of russia, and that's our greatest hope right now. is russia can do something. russia is softening the position on regime change in syria, because i think that they see the syrian regime, this might be an indication we're entering the end game. their job is to ensure that assad doesn't go from even though he's killed 40,000 people, he has been a fairly rational and self-preserving actor here. bombing them with...
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will assad do this as a last hoorah. and what will america do if it comes to it? >> i don't think we're being duped by the administration. there's a difference from 2003 in iraq. and the bush administration was eager to go into iraq. these days, the last thing the obama administration wants to do is go into iraq. in terms of will syria actually use them? i don't think we have any idea. what we do know, is they're not useful militarily. they're helpful in an negotiation, about getting them out. it's hard to see how they advance his cause. >> assad would face complete obliteration if he does this. and some say he wants asylum in venezuela or whatever. he's not a stupid man. why would he risk the wrath of the world ascending on him? >> it's hard to see how this advances his cause, except as part of the negotiation. if you're trying to get a better deal for your family, then, maybe it's useful. >> would this create an internal coup, with his background? i don't know how sane he is or not, and what he's done. he's killing his own people. he's butchering his own people.
will assad do this as a last hoorah. and what will america do if it comes to it? >> i don't think we're being duped by the administration. there's a difference from 2003 in iraq. and the bush administration was eager to go into iraq. these days, the last thing the obama administration wants to do is go into iraq. in terms of will syria actually use them? i don't think we have any idea. what we do know, is they're not useful militarily. they're helpful in an negotiation, about getting them...
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all this appears to be mounting pressure on the assad regime. anybody predicting the assad regime will fall anytime soon, it's a theory that has been floated for several years and it hasn't come to be. he has managed to hold on to power this long. but there are shifts in the ground movement in syria right now that are leading to conclusions that this war could be coming to an tend for president assad. megyn: the president has been briefed on the worst case scenario on what ground operation would be necessary. the pentagon estimates it will take 25,000 troops to seize syria's chemical weapons stockpile. just ahead, general jack keane will join us live to discuss the implications of sending u.s. missiles to the board and why this cache' of chemical weapons requires such a response. >> more on the attack on our consulate in benghazi. james clapper walked house lawmakers through the details of the attack that ended with the death of ambassador chris stevens and three others. clapper trying to answer questions about president obama's handling of inte
all this appears to be mounting pressure on the assad regime. anybody predicting the assad regime will fall anytime soon, it's a theory that has been floated for several years and it hasn't come to be. he has managed to hold on to power this long. but there are shifts in the ground movement in syria right now that are leading to conclusions that this war could be coming to an tend for president assad. megyn: the president has been briefed on the worst case scenario on what ground operation...
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a spokesman for the assad regime says president assad will never leave syria nor will he ever use chemical weapons. they deny even having them. intelligence reports suggests otherwise. this bloody conflict, jon, seems to be entering a new phase where we don't really know what will happen. jon: ominous developments there. conor powell, thank you. jenna: well, it was a storm for the record books. superstorm sandy devastating parts of the east coast. it may have been just a category 1 hurricane, just a category 1 but remember, remember this warning from our very own janice dean? >> a million people could be affected by this storm. so people like, oh, it is a northeast storm. only a category 1. what is the big deal? no, this is an impressive storm. this is not just a tropical system as jenna mentioned. we have basically a hurricane inside a giant nor'easter for the record books. the lowest pressure on record at this latitude. so that is impressive. what pressure means, the lower it goes, the stronger the storm that we are dealing with. jenna: if you remember this but at that time when janice w
a spokesman for the assad regime says president assad will never leave syria nor will he ever use chemical weapons. they deny even having them. intelligence reports suggests otherwise. this bloody conflict, jon, seems to be entering a new phase where we don't really know what will happen. jon: ominous developments there. conor powell, thank you. jenna: well, it was a storm for the record books. superstorm sandy devastating parts of the east coast. it may have been just a category 1 hurricane,...
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is it possible at all that this man, this mad man, bashar al assad, is bluffing? >> oh, i don't think he's bluffing. we have to consider what he represents and that's a very small community, which feels under threat. it thinks it will be destroyed by sunni fundamentalists if it loses damascus or any other big cities. they have their backs to the wall. they say among themselves that when it comes to their lives or killing the rebels they will kill the rebels. in other words, yes, they will use the sarin, i've been dealing with the people for 30 years, they're almost a cult. what seems to us completely irrational decision, they're capable of. i don't know whether they have reached this point or not, but if things get bad enough in syria, i have no dowd they'll use it. >> on this sarin gas, i was reading about it, apparently there are two key components that make this gas and they're held separately, kept separately. you mix them together, it makes for a very potent formula. what kind of damage can sarin gas inflict? >> well, if it was artillery shell were dropped in
is it possible at all that this man, this mad man, bashar al assad, is bluffing? >> oh, i don't think he's bluffing. we have to consider what he represents and that's a very small community, which feels under threat. it thinks it will be destroyed by sunni fundamentalists if it loses damascus or any other big cities. they have their backs to the wall. they say among themselves that when it comes to their lives or killing the rebels they will kill the rebels. in other words, yes, they will...
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plus, is al assad planning his escape. and encouragement from democrats that want hillary to run for president in 2016. i'm wolf blitzer, you're in "the situation room." >>> we begin this hour with the fiscal cliff. it's only a phone call, but it's the most notable movement we have seen. the tax hikes take effect in only 27 days. our senior congressional kor respondespo -- >> today, president obama and john boehner spoke by phone about the fiscal cliff negotiations, but there is no progress. they still have a stand off over the rates. the president still wants to raise rates on the top 2% of americans. the speaker is not moving on that position. this comes on the same day that secretary geithner made it clear in language they have not used before, just how far they're willing to go in the administration to stand by those terms. >> is the administration prepared today go over the fiscal cliff? >> absolutely. there is no agreement without those rates going up on the top 2%. and they all get a tax cut on the first $250,000 of
plus, is al assad planning his escape. and encouragement from democrats that want hillary to run for president in 2016. i'm wolf blitzer, you're in "the situation room." >>> we begin this hour with the fiscal cliff. it's only a phone call, but it's the most notable movement we have seen. the tax hikes take effect in only 27 days. our senior congressional kor respondespo -- >> today, president obama and john boehner spoke by phone about the fiscal cliff negotiations, but...
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officials say they have long been planning for the day after assad. such as training jordanian troops to provide security but for now they just hope syrian troops will keep those chemical weapons under lock and key. but how loyal assad forces remain and for how long may be a measure of the regime's desperation. u.s. military officials believe the syrian forces are losing morale, running short on supplies but for now the killing continues. barbara starr, cnn, the pentagon. >> barbara, thank you. i want to bring in jill dougherty from ireland where the secretary of state hillary clinton held a news conference. keep in mind, russia here, really, resisted the efforts to speed the departure of the syrian leader al assad. so jill, do we know, was syria's chemical weapons, was that discussed here in this conversation between the secretary of state and the foreign minister of russia? >> reporter: well, yes. initially. there are actually two meetings between secretary clinton and the foreign minister. and you know, russia actually does -- this is one area wher
officials say they have long been planning for the day after assad. such as training jordanian troops to provide security but for now they just hope syrian troops will keep those chemical weapons under lock and key. but how loyal assad forces remain and for how long may be a measure of the regime's desperation. u.s. military officials believe the syrian forces are losing morale, running short on supplies but for now the killing continues. barbara starr, cnn, the pentagon. >> barbara,...
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do you believe that assad would do it? >> yes, i believe he would do it because he is desperate and i think he believes the international community will not do anything. he has been protected by moscow and beijing. the west has stood on the side lines and we have given a veto to the sponsors of the assad regime. he thinks he can get away with it. he believes he's lost anyway because the civil war engulfed his regime and the rebels have been on the march the last several months. >> we'll be right back with red light cameras. are they legal? citracal slow release continuously releases calcium plus d with efficient absorption in one daily dose. citracal slow release. ♪ [ male announcer ] campbell's green bean casserole. it's amazing what soup can do megyn: a major class action lawsuit over red light cameras. this new lawsuit alleges cameras are actually rigged to booths payoff for the ticket collectors. trace gallagher has more on that. >> reporter: it's a cash cow for new york city. $293 million in the past five years alon
do you believe that assad would do it? >> yes, i believe he would do it because he is desperate and i think he believes the international community will not do anything. he has been protected by moscow and beijing. the west has stood on the side lines and we have given a veto to the sponsors of the assad regime. he thinks he can get away with it. he believes he's lost anyway because the civil war engulfed his regime and the rebels have been on the march the last several months. >>...
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there is new word that president assad may be losing his biggest ally. we know that hillary clinton met yesterday with the foreign minister from russia and conor powell is live on the story for us in the middle east bureau in jerusalem. are they starting to shift what has been a very strong alliance away from syria? >> reporter: well, martha, russia along with iran have been the biggest backers of the assad regime. russia sent weapons to the syrian government. they protected the syrian government in the u.n. that does appear it could be changing. secretary of state hillary clinton met with russian foreign minister sergei lavrov yesterday in dublin and officials described it as a good meeting, a positive meeting. there seemed to be a an air of compromise in this meeting. past meetings have been hostile with very negative, with little done. both sides yelling at each other, arguing with each other. according to officials this past meeting seemed to be much more constructive. there seemed to be effort to find common ground. where that will actually lead in
there is new word that president assad may be losing his biggest ally. we know that hillary clinton met yesterday with the foreign minister from russia and conor powell is live on the story for us in the middle east bureau in jerusalem. are they starting to shift what has been a very strong alliance away from syria? >> reporter: well, martha, russia along with iran have been the biggest backers of the assad regime. russia sent weapons to the syrian government. they protected the syrian...
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if rebels do take that airport it would be a major defeat for the bashar al-assad. it would cut off an important supply line for the bashar al-assad regime which relies on that airport to get supplies in and out. there are reports the rebels have gained access to heavy syrian tanks and other heavy weapons. much of the fighting is street to street, block to block, house to house, urban combat at its worst. hillary clinton says the events in syria are accelerating, and both sides are talking about some way to try to find some type of resolution to this war in syria that has lasted nearly two years long. russia a big supporter of the bashar al-assad, the russian foreign minister met with secretary clinton in bu dublin. she felt the meeting upbeat thinking there may be a come proeu myself in th compromise in the future. right now there is nothing concrete and syrians continue to die. >> reporter: with every step forward the opposition makes in syria it raises concerns that a cornered president bashar al-assad could be more likely to use those chemical weapons that are a
if rebels do take that airport it would be a major defeat for the bashar al-assad. it would cut off an important supply line for the bashar al-assad regime which relies on that airport to get supplies in and out. there are reports the rebels have gained access to heavy syrian tanks and other heavy weapons. much of the fighting is street to street, block to block, house to house, urban combat at its worst. hillary clinton says the events in syria are accelerating, and both sides are talking...
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jon: the world is waiting for assad's next move. if intelligence reports are correct, he already has ordered his military to prepare chemical weapons. those, we can only presume, would be used against his own people. recent rebel victories seem to give him more incentive to use such weapons, so what can we expect if he does? how do we react, and is it too late to prevent it? let's bring in fox news military analyst and retired army major general bob scales. general, we are told that these sarin delivery systems have been prepared. apparently, you know more about this than i do, but apparently sarin is a powder, you mix it with alcohol, then it becomes live and deadly, but it's only good for about two months. >> yeah, that's right, jon. that's why it's kept in what's called binary form. the chemical and alcohol mixed together, you have a very, very deadly gas. sarin is, essentially, nerve gas, and it is supplied by the soviet union, it's intended to be delivered principally by soviet-style scud rockets. and, essentially, when you fir
jon: the world is waiting for assad's next move. if intelligence reports are correct, he already has ordered his military to prepare chemical weapons. those, we can only presume, would be used against his own people. recent rebel victories seem to give him more incentive to use such weapons, so what can we expect if he does? how do we react, and is it too late to prevent it? let's bring in fox news military analyst and retired army major general bob scales. general, we are told that these sarin...
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that is after now confirmed reports emerging from syria that forces loyal to president bashir al assad are preparing bombs with chemical weapons. syrian soldiers fighting with rebels for control over the outskirts of damascus. now, witnesses tell cnn that 30 people were killed today in street battles across syria. we're also learning about a car bombing in the city of homs and a horrible, horrible discovery. dozens of bodies believed to be victims of a massacre. the same time rebel fighters, they are taking on syrian forces literally house to house in the country's largest city. that is aleppo, and that is where we find our arwa damon today. >> reporter: for two months the streets here have been a war zone. part of a bigger battle for control of aleppo, syria's largest city. this father of four is one of the rebel fighters here. this is our country, our homes that are being destroyed, he tells us. he used to sell thread. now he runs logistics for his unit. so what he is explaining to us is that this was street to street fighting, and it took his unit quite some time to advance and righ
that is after now confirmed reports emerging from syria that forces loyal to president bashir al assad are preparing bombs with chemical weapons. syrian soldiers fighting with rebels for control over the outskirts of damascus. now, witnesses tell cnn that 30 people were killed today in street battles across syria. we're also learning about a car bombing in the city of homs and a horrible, horrible discovery. dozens of bodies believed to be victims of a massacre. the same time rebel fighters,...
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her father says she thought the rebel fighters with us were assad's forces. despite his efforts to reassure her, she's still anxious and with reason. he was shot in the arm as a checkpoint. the bullet was going to hit my daughter, he tells us. but i had just put my arm around her. she, just 4 years old, blinks hard, yes. she ended up drenched in her father's blood. as gunfire rings out again, her father takes away the bullet casings she's collected. nearby, a woman who doesn't want to be filmed takes me aside. sometimes i want to die, rather than live like this, she whispers. >> arwa damon is joining us now from northern syria. arwa, what about these reports -- you've heard the secretary of state talking about it -- that the syrian regime may be moving around their chemical weapons. if they are, that's a red line that the u.s. will have to deal with. are the rebels where you are concerned that bashar al assad's regime could use chemical weapons against them? >> reporter: they most certainly are, wolf. first of all, they believe that this regime will do just a
her father says she thought the rebel fighters with us were assad's forces. despite his efforts to reassure her, she's still anxious and with reason. he was shot in the arm as a checkpoint. the bullet was going to hit my daughter, he tells us. but i had just put my arm around her. she, just 4 years old, blinks hard, yes. she ended up drenched in her father's blood. as gunfire rings out again, her father takes away the bullet casings she's collected. nearby, a woman who doesn't want to be filmed...
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updated plans if president assad uses chemical weapons. are the syrians, folks you talk to in northern syria, civilians, the rebels, are they ready for some sort of potential chemical strike? >> reporter: no, put quite simply, they are not. there's nothing that the population can do to defend itself. this is a population that has struggled at best to even try to defend itself against the bullets, artillery, bombs. when it comes to a chemical weapon, there's nothing that they can do. that is why this is such a terrifying possibility. people are aware the u.s. called it a red line, but that has been met with quite a fair amount of cynicism because they say that the u.s. has issued a red line warning in the past and they haven't felt repercussions from that. people are frustrated, angry, terrified at america's position when it comes to the syrian uprising. they feel as if the u.s. abandoned them to their fate. many of them are asking the question why is the u.s. saying chemical weapons are a red line. what about the 40,000 plus that have died
updated plans if president assad uses chemical weapons. are the syrians, folks you talk to in northern syria, civilians, the rebels, are they ready for some sort of potential chemical strike? >> reporter: no, put quite simply, they are not. there's nothing that the population can do to defend itself. this is a population that has struggled at best to even try to defend itself against the bullets, artillery, bombs. when it comes to a chemical weapon, there's nothing that they can do. that...
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the assad regime acknowledged it does possess chemical weapons. it did so, did acknowledge this for the first time just over the summer and syria can deliver its chemical weapons by bomb, by missile or by rocket. syria also is suspected of having produced chemical weapons since the 1980s. so a lot to watch here out of syria. in moments we'll talk a little bit more about the syrian regime's crackdown against its own people but also a broader topic about al qaeda using syria as a place to train their operatives to spread terror around the region. that will be one of the topics we'll be talking about in less than 10 minutes. jon: right now breaking news in the fort hood shooting rampage trial. a military court is removing the judge from the case saying he was not impartial. rick folbaum has those new developments for us. >> reporter: we're tracking this from the newsroom. nidal hasan will get a new judge, says that judge he had, colonel gregory gross has not been impartial towards the mass murder suspect. the court saying colonel gross's order that h
the assad regime acknowledged it does possess chemical weapons. it did so, did acknowledge this for the first time just over the summer and syria can deliver its chemical weapons by bomb, by missile or by rocket. syria also is suspected of having produced chemical weapons since the 1980s. so a lot to watch here out of syria. in moments we'll talk a little bit more about the syrian regime's crackdown against its own people but also a broader topic about al qaeda using syria as a place to train...
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if assad does this, it is almost certain to bring either nato or u.s. air strikes on assad himself. on his supporters so that the threat is not just to assad but it is to those who would carry out assad's orders. do you this. we're coming after you. >> bill: is there is -- i know the opposition has united, right? are these people -- we may not have any choice, but are these people -- we can trust, we can work with? that's always the big question. it is not a reason for supporting the dictator which we always used to use -- who are you going to get. but what do we though about the opposition. >> largely brokered by the u.s. there has been an effort to enlarge and unite the coalition of free syrian forces, national coalition -- britain has recognized a group. france has recognized a group. it looks like next week the u.s. will recognize it. this will allow us to send more aid primarily humanitarian but also likely given where we are increased military aid to them which is now going through third parties like qatr. the bad news is these groups run the spectrum. they include al-qaeda-li
if assad does this, it is almost certain to bring either nato or u.s. air strikes on assad himself. on his supporters so that the threat is not just to assad but it is to those who would carry out assad's orders. do you this. we're coming after you. >> bill: is there is -- i know the opposition has united, right? are these people -- we may not have any choice, but are these people -- we can trust, we can work with? that's always the big question. it is not a reason for supporting the...
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in syria, meanwhile, rebels continue to advance on damascus, prompting concern that president assad's regime will respond with chemical weapons. question, should the u.s. intervene in any of these here now is mark ginsburg, former white house middle east advisor. welcome back, mark. here's the thing. we drew a red line, president obama drew a red line over these chemical weapons of mass destruction. at what point do we have to start bombing them to prevent them from moving and utilizes those weapons of mass destruction? when's that happen? >> larry, the fact of the matter is that i already know some of those weapons have been moved and put into the hands of the iranian revolutionary guards operating in syria and also i believe some of it has been sold to hezbollah. so as far as i'm concerned, there's some of that red line that's been crossed. but to answer your question, the fact remains is that if the intelligence report says, as the president and the press reports are leading us to believe, that precursors have been loaded into those shells, somehow or another we're going to have to
in syria, meanwhile, rebels continue to advance on damascus, prompting concern that president assad's regime will respond with chemical weapons. question, should the u.s. intervene in any of these here now is mark ginsburg, former white house middle east advisor. welcome back, mark. here's the thing. we drew a red line, president obama drew a red line over these chemical weapons of mass destruction. at what point do we have to start bombing them to prevent them from moving and utilizes those...
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chemical weapons but we are certainly planning to take action if that is a very strong warning to the assad regime that their behavior is reprehensible. >> clinton did not say if the u.s. had any new evidence to suggest they are planning to use a stockpile of missiles they are believed to have. watts told politico the defeat is evidence that their party needs to broaden its appeal to minority voters. priebus has announced he is seeking a second term. party insiders say out of the 168 votes from members who get to pick, he has 130 of those locked up publicly. nbc news has learned president obama will ask the dnc to approve keeping debbie wasserman schultz as chair. the fact the president carries her home state might have helped her cause. 23% gave president obama an excellent rating, 18% said the same for cuomo and both bloomberg and fema got 14% excellence ratings. cory booker is taking part in what he has labelled as the food stamp challenge. he will only eat what food stamps can provide, $4 a meal. a back and forth twitter exchange about the role in funding school breakfast and lunch prog
chemical weapons but we are certainly planning to take action if that is a very strong warning to the assad regime that their behavior is reprehensible. >> clinton did not say if the u.s. had any new evidence to suggest they are planning to use a stockpile of missiles they are believed to have. watts told politico the defeat is evidence that their party needs to broaden its appeal to minority voters. priebus has announced he is seeking a second term. party insiders say out of the 168...